This week's conversation delves into the benefits of an agile approach to projects, emphasising iteration and incremental improvements. Jason and Davey discuss challenges in traditional project management, advocating for a focus on the journey rather than just the end result. They explore the power of subtraction in problem-solving and the difference between knowing and understanding. Privacy legislation pitfalls, historical patterns, and the push-pull between innovation and inefficiency are also touched upon. The conversation highlights the need for effective privacy measures, considering trade-offs between privacy and practicality